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Subject: cholesterol/triglyceride measurements good, but blood sugar bad (subtext: relationship between weight lifting and ketosis)

Submitted By: 

Frank Brigham, Huntsville, AL

 

QUESTION:  I've been on the NHE Eating Plan for a few months and I have significantly reduced my bodyfat. I was very happy with my results based on the fat loss, but I recently got bloodwork done and the results gave me pause. Overall, the measurements were favorable (LDL/HDL ratio was great, and triglycerides were low), but my blood sugar was elevated. Based on my high blood sugar, I wonder if I might not be developing diabetes! Please help me make sense of this. I'm very concerned.

 

ROB'S REPLY: 

Before I respond, I need more data. First, was insulin tested? If so, what were the readings. Also, have you have had your blood sugar tested before? If so, when and what were the readings? Assuming you weight train, when was your last workout in relation to the test? Also, when was your last meal in relation to the test.

 

ANSWERS TO ROB'S FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS

Insulin was not tested. I've had blood sugar tested several times, most recently a few months ago, and the readings were normal. I weight trained the night before, ate afterwards, and got the test done the next morning before breakfast.  


ROB'S ANSWER:

I can help you "make sense of this," but I cannot answer your question for the following reason: the facts you have given me are limited, and in any event, I am not qualified to diagnose disease. I can help you understand the implications of blood lipid measurements in general, but not in relation to any disease that you may or may not have.

Of all the parameters you mentioned (LDL, HDL, triglycerides, and blood sugar), blood sugar is the least meaningful. Blood sugar can, and does, fluctuate for reasons unrelated to insulin. Here’s an example: someone pulls a knife on you - your blood sugar will skyrocket within seconds. One of the functions of catabolic hormones, like cortisol and adrenaline, is to raise blood sugar levels (that’s why these hormones are called glucocorticoids - they raise glucose levels to provide quick energy to fuel the "fight or flight" response). You’ll recall from NHE the discussion of gluconeogenesis - catabolic hormones convert muscle amino acids into sugar. The fight or flight response is much less useful these days than it was thousands of years ago when the energy burst was needed to run away from, or combat, predators. Maybe you were anxious about getting a needle stuck in you when you were getting blood drawn for the test. That can trigger a flight or fight response, and a corresponding blood sugar surge. Or, you could have been catabolic from an intense workout the night before.

An intense weightlifting workout can cause blood sugar levels to move around quite a bit (called "glucose flux"). I've tested this on myself by using ketostix (you pee on them and they darken if you are in ketosis). I was in ketosis several times, then went to work-out, then tested again post-workout, and the second test was completely negative for ketones. This in spite of the fact that I ate no food between the pre-workout test and the post-workout test. In fact, I've done extensive keto-testing on myself and I've never showed even a trace of ketosis after weight training - even if I was in ketosis before going to the gym. Why is this? Because the intense workout provoked a predictable catabolic response, which raised blood sugar levels. Remember from NHE that the post-workout catabolic response is a antecedent to anabolic supercompensation.

Remember also from NHE the relationship between food and catabolism/anabolism? Feeding is associated with anabolism, whereas fasting is associated with catabolism. You indicated that you fasted for many hours before the blood test was administered. A fat-burner fares better than a sugar burner in all respects. But like I've said many times, it’s a matter of degree. A fat-burner still uses sugar (especially bodybuilders who need sugar from glycogen to fuel their workouts), just less of it than a sugar-burner. And a sugar-burner still uses fat, just less of it than a fat-burner. Fasting when your muscles are “torn-down” from an intense workout the day before causes a greater catabolic rise (See NHE p. 297), and corresponding blood sugar increase, than if you hadn't worked-out at all.

The bottom line, in terms of blood sugar, is that people who weight train (and are deliberately stimulating catabolic hormonal release in order to generate a compensatory anabolic response) are subject to blood sugar fluctuations that non-exercisers are not.

You will recall that I was cautious in asking for more data before responding to this issue. I asked about insulin. Had your fasting insulin level been elevated, that would have been highly significant and ominous. But you said insulin wasn’t tested. Furthermore, you said, in response to my query on this, that there were no other “bad” blood sugar tests in the past. Had blood sugar registered high on other occasions, it would be significant. But given the many innocuous variables that can temporarily raise blood sugar, one sugar-high measurement does not warrant any negative inferences.

Moreover, not only are blood sugar readings inherently ambiguous, but there is strong evidence that your particular blood-sugar reading had nothing whatsoever to do with insulin. Insulin resistance is almost always accompanied by unfavorable blood lipids levels (see NHE). Insulin resistance means more insulin must be produced; consequently, insulin levels rise. Elevated insulin levels result in elevated triglycerides, elevated LDL cholesterol, and increased abdominal fat accumulation. For these reasons, Type II diabetes is highly associated with cardiovascular disease.

Unless you have a very unusual metabolic derangement, your healthy blood lipid readings and your decreasing bodyfat would strongly suggest that your insulin levels are not elevated. Rather, favorable cholesterol and triglyceride levels and low bodyfat percentage are associated with good cardiovascular health and efficient insulin function. Given that these parameters have improved since you began the NHE program, it is likely that your insulin levels are lower than they were before you began the NHE Eating Plan.

Based on what you have told me, it appears that your health status has improved since you began the NHE program. For all the reasons explained in this letter, blood sugar, by itself, is of questionable significance (especially for bodybuilders). And in light of the surrounding facts - particularly your favorable blood lipid levels and decreased bodyfat percentage - a one-time high blood sugar reading cannot be deemed indicative of an underlying health problem. But only your doctor, upon further testing, can determine whether in fact you have a medical condition.    

 

 

 

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Subject: a challenge to NHE's meal frequency recommendation

Submitted By: Andy Drysdale Richardson, TX

 

QUESTION:  I've run across some "experts" who say that the grazing diet of eating five or more times a day can be detrimental in the long run. They suggest that the liver and digestive system needs time to recover.

Although the following study focused on high carb/low fat diets, they nevertheless state that "grazing" does not give the liver a chance to recover from digestion.
http://www.rense.com/general13/SNACK.HTM   

Also, on the Laura Lee show (which is where I discovered you), a guest named Dr. Joseph Mercola said that the long term effects of constantly having digestive enzymes secreted is not healthy and will even lead to an early death! Have you heard of any such research, and what is your response to this criticism?

 

ROB'S ANSWER: 

I examined the link you provided, and it did not lead me to any studies supporting the theory that frequent moderate-to-low carb small feedings are unhealthy. You remarked that you've run across some experts who "say that the grazing diet of eating five or more times a day can be detrimental in the long run." Lots of people say lots of things, what matters is what the scientific evidence says. In Natural Hormonal Enhancement, I cite studies showing that a feeding regimen of small, frequent feedings is healthy and facilitates fat loss and muscular enhancement. Until someone refutes the evidence I cited or presents countervailing published studies, my recommendation must prevail. Even if evidence emerges showing that a "grazing diet" has negative effects, you must weigh these effects against the positive ones detailed in NHE.

Lots of people say lots of things, what matters is what the scientific evidence says.

 

Until someone refutes the evidence I cited or presents countervailing published studies, my recommendation must prevail. Even if evidence emerges showing that a "grazing diet" has negative effects, you must weigh these effects against the positive ones detailed in NHE.

You wrote that, "Dr. Joseph Mercola said that the long term effects of constantly having digestive enzymes secreted is not healthy." If your last meal is at 8pm and you go to bed at 11:30pm and you wake-up at 7am and eat breakfast immediately, then that's 11 hours with no eating - a far cry from "constantly having digestive enzymes secreted." Also, my understanding is that more digestive enzymes are secreted in response to a larger meal than in response to a smaller meal (certainly more digestive enzymes are secreted after eating a peanut butter sandwich than after eating one peanut). This would suggest that assuming the same amount of calories is consumed, caloric distribution may not make a difference in terms of total digestive enzyme secretion or the total amount of work required by the digestive organs. Therefore, the upshot of Dr. Mercola's digestive-enzyme thesis may simply be that gluttony is bad.

Chronically consuming an excessive amount of food is unhealthy for many reasons, including because it overtaxes the body's digestive machinery. Thus, I would agree with Dr. Mercola that, in terms of optimal health, if someone eats three full-sized meals and snacks between meals, they'd be better off eliminating the snacks. However, this is entirely different from saying that someone is better off consuming three larger meals than six smaller meals. It is not clear to me that Dr. Mercola takes this position (that consuming fewer, larger meals is healthier than consuming more, smaller meals). If he does, then his position conflicts with the evidence cited in NHE.

I would agree. . . that, in terms of optimal health, if someone eats three full-sized meals and snacks between meals, they'd be better off eliminating the snacks. However, this is entirely different from saying that someone is better off consuming three larger meals than six smaller meals.

 

 

 

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Subject: the difference between training for athletic excellence and optimal health

Submitted By: 

Jason Love, Berkeley, CA

 

QUESTION:  I understand the diet section and its implications as it was written very clearly. I do however have a few questions regarding the exercise section of the text.

Your book states that with your "standard" workout, an individual should only train with resistance 2-3 days per week for one hour max and that each resistance workout may be followed by an aerobic workout the next day. It seems to me that any professional athlete (football, soccer, basketball, boxing), military special forces operative, or adventure racer would immediately break your time limit/training rule and take himself or herself out of the hormonally correct zone very quickly. As another example I take jiu jitsu. Given your formula training 3-5 days per week (1.5 hour classes) would take me out of your zone without adding any additional time in the morning for some supplemental resistance or aerobic work. Are you telling me professional athletes, military special forces, etc.. are killing their bodies and training incorrectly?

 

ROB'S ANSWER:

The short answer to your question is, yes, many athletes are training in a hormonally incorrect fashion. However, your query: "Are you telling me professional athletes, military special forces, etc. are killing their bodies?" is overly dramatic and a bit hyperbolic. Just because you are not training in a hormonally optimal way does not mean that you are "killing your body." Having said that, persistent gross overtraining comes pretty close to fitting that description.

Bear in mind that NHE's one-hour time limit applies to high-intensity intermittent exercise or lower-intensity continuous exercise. Having played football and many other sports, I can tell you that a 2-hour practice session often does not fall into either category. For one, the intensity of many activities that comprise a football-practice session is lower than the intensity of a weight-training workout; and the "interset" time intervals are often longer. There are strategy sessions, technique drills, etc. that may amount to low-intensity exercise or rest.

Bear in mind that NHE's one-hour time limit applies to high-intensity intermittent exercise or lower-intensity continuous exercise. Having played football and many other sports, I can tell you that a 2-hour practice session often does not fall into either category.

 


You also asked, incredulously: "are you telling me professional athletes, military special forces, etc. are. . . training incorrectly?" This raises the question: correctly for what? For winning? For hormonal enhancement? To illustrate this point, if Pete Sampras practices tennis for 6 hours a day, is he training "incorrectly"? Yes, if his goal is optimal hormonal status. No, if his goal is to be the best tennis player in the world. If one thing is clear, it is this: competitive athletes striving to attain greatness have other concerns besides optimal health. This is why they sometimes take steroids, diuretics, amphetamines, etc. and engage in dangerous sports such as football and boxing.

If one thing is clear, it is this: competitive athletes striving to attain greatness have other concerns besides optimal health.

The ideal training routine for a given individual cannot be determined without reference to that individual's goals and priorities.

Sure, elite athletes are super-fit in some respects (like cardiovascular capacity in the case of marathoners) but perhaps unfit in other respects (like hormonal profile and immunity in the case of many marathoners). Health is multi-faceted, and can be variously defined with respect to different physiological parameters. The ideal training routine for a given individual cannot be determined without reference to that individual's goals and priorities. Optimal health need not be everyone's paramount objective at all times; and it is certainly not the chief objective of athletic competition.

Optimal health need not be everyone's paramount objective at all times; and it is certainly not the chief objective of athletic competition.

 

 

 

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